There are many paths to removing these restrictions.

#1 Is this http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Possibly_Practical_POS_Performance_Proposal_%28CSM%29 fully modular permissions and divisions will mean the spy and thief threat can be better managed so noobs will be in demand again instead of shunned as potential spiez.

There are other good ideas as well.

So its not slippery slope. Its a temporary band aid.

What part of tough ****, CCP ruled it in favourable interests of the entire playerbase don't you reprobates that "do" understand but simply argue tooth and nail to the extent you think your some kind of special snowflake deserving unmitigated rights over others because your interests naturally have to come first?

Hurrrrrr :downsmad:

So despite my attempts to clarify things you will continue to go with your assumptions anyhow. Arrogance and idiocy, QED.

And yet funnily enough its my belief that the very reason CCP introduced the ruling was very much to preserve this sandbox, and not just for "scammers".

Since I believe CCP have made this decision in order to benefit the growth of the community and to afford the purposeful use of the recruitment channel for its intended purpose. I see this as largely more beneficial to "whole" of EvE rather than just pandering to the interests of scammers who obviosuly don't give two hoots about the progression of EvE overall. They are more concerned about ensuring ISK is flowing into their own wallets.

+1 to CCP.

Sure:

http://i.imgur.com/Td3ex.jpg

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

I dont see any significant growth pattern.

Ok fair enough so nothing to do with Goons, ok, so where is this amazing pull the Goons are demonstrating for the appeal to the game on the server graph, please point it out?

Ok fair enough so nothing to do with Goons, ok, so where is this amazing pull the Goons are demonstrating for the appeal to the game on the server graph, please point it out?

Sorry i dont see it, all I see from the long term graph (which is up to date) is a downard trend to a virtual flat line, there is no serious growth trend to account for and please attribute it to Goons playstyle.

Sorry if someone is making the claim that the Goons playstyle is an improvement to server numbers they have to prove it.

I placed them as a contra argument to the claims being projected, mainly as we have seen significant evidence in the forums of the differences in opinion represented to the Goons, not as a factual representation.

But I don't want to explore the Goon hate phenomina beyond what is needed to make a point, as I don't have or want to see any motivations for seeing Goons not being a relevant part of EvE. But I'm not going to simply swallow the BS either.

Everyone off the forums, they hold no relevance or value, Goons have said so, pointless being here, nothing to see.

I have made points, don't expect you to like them and certainly would expect you to oppose them as a Goon. Not surprised you would simply try to deny the points.

TL;DR: IYO, bored now. I'll wait for CCP's comment.

While I think these stories are hilarious, I do think that the channels should be used for what they are designed for. Using the recruit channel to scam people with no intention accepting them is really no different than WTB/WTS spamming the channel.

I see so when La Nairz says it it's a point. And you say your not in denial about my points:



Hypocrit.

I was directed to this thread shortly after I updated the current MotD of the Recruitment Channel a few minutes ago.

To be succinct:
1. Scamming is not forbidden in EVE unless they are facilitated through bugs, exploits and the like. Likewise, if they are conducted in such a manner as to violate the ToS or EULA they will be stopped.
2. The onus of responsibility was always on the shoulders of both parties involved in recruitment. It was stated so in the MotD even, although it did not receive much attention. If the recruit or recruiter got scammed or betrayed in any way, it would be their responsibility for having entered into the deal.
3. For the simple purpose of keeping the channel somewhat usable, posting scams into it was considered off topic and therefore forbidden. Updating the MotD to emphasize this then spun into the current situation, which should now be (hopefully) clarified.

You are always responsible for the outcome of any deal you enter into yourself in EVE Online, Customer Support can not protect you from your own choices.

Posting scams in the Recruitment Channel is forbidden in the same way that posting off topic there is forbidden. It is a measure of moderation of the channel, being a member of the channel does not carry with it any implied protection from such scams any more than being a member of the Help channel does.